(;GM[1]FF[4] SZ[13]KM[7.50] PW[GNU]WR[13k] PB[viking5]PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at http://kgs.kiseido.com/] DT[2006-02-05] EV[Eleventh KGS Computer Go Tournament - Formal division]RE[W+Resign] TM[1080]RU[Chinese] C[GNU [13k\]: GTP Engine for GNU (white): GNU Go version 3.7.8 viking5 [?\]: GTP Engine for viking5 (black): Viking version 5.3.1 ] CA[UTF-8]RO[2] ;B[kc];W[dj];B[ec];W[jf];B[ij] C[zapp [?\]: burtabel, viking does not use bensons it plays random games to the end ] ;W[kj];B[ck];W[ii] C[zapp [?\]: And if all random games wins it simply plays any move ] ;B[hf]C[burtabel [3d\]: ok i see ];W[hj];B[dk] C[zapp [?\]: But in a close game losing those stones would be a disaster ] ;W[ej]C[zapp [?\]: And in 99% of the case it will play correctly ] ;B[ek];W[ik] C[zapp [?\]: I have actually never tested viking against gnugo on 13x13 ] ;B[gg];W[eg];B[fk];W[bi];B[bj];W[ee];B[id];W[cj];B[bk];W[ch] C[zapp [?\]: Viking thinks it is slightly behind ];B[je];W[kf];B[cd] ;W[cf];B[le]C[gunnar [?\]: GNU thinks B+3. ];W[lf] C[burtabel [3d\]: yes after W C8 Black should be leading ];B[fd] ;W[be];B[bc];W[gl];B[ig];W[jh] C[zapp [?\]: Viking has problems with monkey jumps burtabel [3d\]: gnugo too ] ;B[ff];W[ke];B[aj];W[ld];B[ef];W[lc] C[gunnar [?\]: GNU thinks it's ahead by five points now. ];B[bg] C[zapp [?\]: Viking is also more pessimistic ];W[ai];B[fj];W[jc] ;B[eh]C[gunnar [?\]: GNU doesn't seem worried about the left side. zapp [?\]: Viking clearly wants to kill this large group ] ;W[ic];B[dg]C[burtabel [3d\]: well its dead now ];W[gb] C[zapp [?\]: Not in computer go... ];B[cg] C[gunnar [?\]: Somehow the owl reading found out correctly but didn't play to defend it anyway. burtabel [3d\]: maybe semeai overruled it? zapp [?\]: This is often what happens when viking beats gnu ] ;W[ie];B[fb] C[zapp [?\]: It desperately tries something and gnu stumbles on a bug ] ;W[hd];B[gc]C[Gresil [16k\]: viking5 has superior luck code, eh ] ;W[hb] C[zapp [?\]: Good comment. Since it is based on playing random games to the end it actually measures luck all the time ] ;B[fl];W[fm] C[zapp [?\]: It plays the move that seems to possibly be the most lucky one ] ;B[gi];W[dm];B[gk];W[hl];B[hk];W[il];B[he];W[if];B[el];W[em];B[ga] ;W[gd] C[zapp [?\]: A move ordering problem makes it not see the points in the lower left ] ;B[ha];W[ia];B[fa];W[bm];B[cl];W[cm];B[jg];W[kg];B[ih];W[hi];B[hh] ;W[ji];B[bl];W[ge];B[fe];W[al];B[fh];W[jd];B[kl];W[gf];B[lk];W[hg] C[zapp [?\]: It now thinks it is losing ];B[lj];W[li];B[ml];W[lm] ;B[mj];W[km];B[gj];W[gh];B[hh];W[ih];B[fg];W[gh];B[jl];W[jm] C[burtabel [3d\]: hmm ])